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Post by TucBiscuit » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:42 am

Hello, long time lurker (I've introduced myself on the newbies thread)
I'm going to the Curzon on Halloween too.

I'll be on my own, which doesn't really worry me, but if you want to say hello it would make my night. Still deciding exactly what to wear (but what of costume?) I'll post details when I have, so you can spot me and decide whether it's worth the risk of introducing yourself. Truth is, whatever I wear I will end up looking like a fat goth whose sprayed herself in glue and rolled through a fancy dress shop :D

Laughing to myself at the idea of going home on the Tube and the bus on Saturday morning...!

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Post by Son of Tubbs returns! » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:14 pm

Ahhh I was going to go but no one else was going to and now I'm booked up with something else!
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Post by miss denton » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:27 pm

How did friday go? I couldn't make it.

I can't get into the local shop site to see any reports from the people who went :(

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Post by TucBiscuit » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:09 pm

All I can say is I had a wonderful time to start with, but fell asleep!

I'd had a really busy week at work, and didn't manage a particularly early night the night before. Also I had a few sherbets when I got there because I was early (as almost always) and had quite a bit of waiting around to do.

Anyway, had been there a while when Rudolp Rocker arrived. As with when I launched myself at Steve I decided to go for it. They were having a drink in the bar and I decided that was permission enough. Jeremy was stood next to a very very tall man (reminded me of Stephen Merchant!) and consequently looked like an action figure of himself. Lovely big bushy hair. I think they were all in DJs, but to be honest I was a bit overwhelmed (not tipsy at this point, just drunk on excitement!).

He was very charming, complimented my costume and the fact I'd dressed up. I recycled the joke from Psychoville, and pretended thiis was my usual Friday night garb, which he laughed at. I told him I'd been to the filming and he asked me some questions in a really interested way. He gave the impression he would be quite happy to chat as if I were a normal person (!) but I felt I was intruding just because of who he is. So I told him how much I enjoyed his books and Funland and was looking forward to January and bowed out gracefully.

When I got back to my table, I asked a lady behind me if she would mind watching my seat while I went to the toilet and identified her as Death (of the Endless). This pleased her , because her Mum had said no-one would know who she was :) A little later she came back to the tab;e - she was selling copies of the new The League of Gentlemen book! Of course I bought one. I've since read it, and it's quite gud. It namechecks lofg twice, quotes a poster re commentaries and names PapasNewWife as a forum name. Yay!

Back to the Curzon. Rudolph Rocker were great. I've never seen them before. Voodoo Lady went down well.

One of the ?organisers? had a gorgeous curly red wig on. She came round taking pics of people in costume, and took mine. She seemed impressed that I actually had fangs in (these made me lisp when talking to Jezza).

We moved into the basement, to the cinema. The organisers spoke to us, thanked us, and said they would be awardng prizes. They asked anyone who felt they'd made a real effort to stand up. Now there were some really good costumes there - all I had on was a goth dress and a wig, so I stayed sitting. But the red haired lady shouted over to me to stand, and gave me a dvd of 2 Spanish horror films. Go figure. It delighted me of course!

Jeremy came in and read from his new book. What was it like? Not sure! I moved closer to sit near him, and was looking rather than listening. By now I was already tired, and had a sneaky double vodka in my cinema cup of Coke! For some reason, they were running late and Jem could only read part of the story. I must have been listening at least a little, as I was disappointed that he couldn't finish.

Following that, we had the Christmas Special. And it was special watching it on the big screen. Fantastic.

I made it through the first two films, but I admit I was woken up by applause at the end of the second. Oh dear. I was really struggling. So I had to leave before breakfast. I felt strangely invulnerable walking to get my bus, as if being dressed in costume made me at once noticeable and invisible. I bought a burger to soak up the booze and got the 188 home at about 05.00.

Great night, and Jeremy was wonderful both to me and as a performer.

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Post by TucBiscuit » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:49 pm

It's been mentioned on this board already, though I can't find where now. It's by Leon Hunt and is part of a TV Classics series. The writer is a fan,but is also treats it to a fairly scholarly evaluation. I think it's usually £12 but they were selling it for £10 on Halloween.

I'd say it's worth it for a completist, but it obviously doesn't say anything new to someone who knows their canon of work well. It's nice to have Blood on Satan's Claw mentioned (esp given this is a book about the TV series NOT The League as gentlemen, as it were). Jeremy and Mark were interviewed, but all the photos are screen prints (some even with the titles left on).

In fact can someone get round to writing a Gents biography please? Go and get in with the Mums and get anecdoates and school photos and such. Just don't interview any ex girlfriends/ boyfriends. That would be tacky, and we don't want to hear it!

Oh btw, he even mentioned slash fiction, and how Reece is often portrayed bound and violated. He knows his stuff.

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Fan section of book?

Post by alex » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:02 pm

How does the book evaluate the Gents and their wariness/hatred of their fans? Is is touched upon - or being one himself, does the author put rose-tinted specs on it? I know they have had mainly bad experiences with over familiar individuals who have crossed the line as far of personal space is concerned.

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Post by MrsBeasley » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:12 am

Is this Leon's book?
"I don't know that I share your view"
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Post by a1tiptop » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:23 am

TucBiscuit wrote: Oh btw, he even mentioned slash fiction, and how Reece is often portrayed bound and violated. He knows his stuff.
He he he he. Of course he does. Leon's our *friend*

Bless you Leon.

(haven't read it yet but should do in the next couple of days)
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Re: Fan section of book?

Post by TucBiscuit » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:29 am

alex wrote:How does the book evaluate the Gents and their wariness/hatred of their fans? Is is touched upon - or being one himself, does the author put rose-tinted specs on it? I know they have had mainly bad experiences with over familiar individuals who have crossed the line as far of personal space is concerned.
Ah now, this is too tricky a subject for me to want to address. As other more experienced forum members know of the book and the author, I'll leave it to them. All I can say is I wasn't aware of any hatred.

Yes Mrs Beasley, it's by Leon Hunt, I assume his identity is known to you :)

And PNW, please don't feel worried - your moniker is simply used as an example of a forum name. And the comment by "a forum member" is not attributed, it's only about listening to the commentary, nothing personal about the Gents.

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Re: Fan section of book?

Post by a1tiptop » Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:26 pm

alex wrote:How does the book evaluate the Gents and their wariness/hatred of their fans? Is is touched upon - or being one himself, does the author put rose-tinted specs on it? I know they have had mainly bad experiences with over familiar individuals who have crossed the line as far of personal space is concerned.
Sadly, it's this sort of thing that's always made me uncomfortable about *being* a gents fan and certainly of telling people I am. No one wants to be a fan of people who hate their fans... And even if the gents don't, a lot of people certainly think they do. It doesn't help that it's the sort of show which is percieved by the general public as "weird" and therefore anyone who's a fan of it "must be a complete nutter". Strangely I've met far more sane/nice people on here than I ever have in more mainstream fandoms.

Knowing Leon, he will be completely objective about it. But it would be really horrible and antagonistic to go into the subject with the gents themselves. They are hardly going to come out and be too harsh on their own fans, I would hope. No matter what they privately feel.
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Post by Pelinor » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:36 pm

Well Deb and I attended this and it was really good. I didn't dress up in the end due to having flu but I made myself go anyway. clutching my loyal bottle of Lucozade. Lots of people had dressed up and there was even a Papa Lazarou :-)

Jeremy and his band appeared at around 10pm and were huddled in the corner talking to Leon Hunt I think. Deb bought a copy of his BFI TLoG book and it looks like it won't disappoint!

So Jeremy and his band played a pretty awesome version of Voodoo Lady - I really wish I had bought my camcorder! I managed to grab 20 odd seconds on my mobile however the quality isn't great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3rhIeozcTs

I got some pictures though the camera was tempramental and went off randomly

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Went up to Jeremy after the performance and I touched his arm and asked if he would mind a photo. He was lovely and posed - Deb got it on her camera as mine had given up by now... I am amazed at how lovely and normal Jeremy is - loooking at him you'd never believe he was responsible for some of the horrors and characters that the League have done - and he's so humble too - wonderful man :D

I got this on my mobile - the lighting was so low though that it hasn't come that clear.

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Once we were setlled into our cinema seats Jeremy read an extract from his forthcoming book of short horror stories - sounds pretty good!

Onto the films. First up was TLoG Christmas Special which was fab to see on the big screen again - and - yet again - Reece's parcelforce didn't get a whoop or a squeal... which is good really!

Next was "I Walked With A Zombie" - pretty chilling film all about voodoo.

After that "Night of The Eagle" - Peter Wyngarde! And what a dish he was when young before Jason King.. This one was about a school professor who learns his wife is a practising witch. And what happens to them when he forces her to give up her "protection".

The next one Jeremy had warned us about - he said that he'd only seen in once in 1987 but that it had stayed with him and affected him. "The Believers" had Martin Sheen in as a man who had lost his wife in a household accident - she was electrocuted in front of him and his son... nasty. The two of them then move to New York and these child sacrificial murders start happening - it's all very gruesome and grim. The black guy in it - the evil voodoo man - looks like a male Grace Jones. Imagine how scary that was on the big screen.... The ending is pretty up in the air too... And it has spooked me, it really has.

We left after that finished at 6am...yes 6AM, as I desperately needed my bed and Deb needed some sleep before going up to Mark's event in Nottingham. What a pair we looked plodding arounnd in Soho after being awake all night... I feel so old :roll:

I haven't got Leon's book yet - waiting until Christmas! I too have heard tales of the Gents having problems with some of their fans.

You hope they don't think you're being like Alex says "too familiar" with them, Reece especially, as I've managed to meet him a few times in the past year, and I always grab a hold of him when I do :lol: However I wouldn't dream of thinking that he knows me - I don't think he knows my name or even recognises me each time - that isn't why you become a fan though is it? To be "in with them", it's because you appreciate them and their work. Yes I think he's physically glorious and is an angry genius type :P But hopefully he's not frightened of me :wink:
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Post by Geoff Tipps' Joke Writer » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:56 pm

Ellie & I made it through to 6.00am! We left before 'Scream Blacula Scream' but as Jeremy pointed out, he hadn't even chosen that film. As Ellie said we both needed to sleep (I had an hour before I had to travel up to Nottingham for Mark's 'What Are You Scared Of' at the Mayhem Horror Festival)

It was great seeing the Christmas Special on the big screen again. All the other films shown were very watchable. 'I Walked with a Zombie' stood out for me - its just a beautifully atmospheric film & amazing to think that films like this got made during the golden era of the studio system in Hollywood. I really enjoyed 'Night of the Eagle' too - a low budget film made with real commitment, with the storyline's premise treated with deadly seriousness. Very well directed, with some good performances.

The 15 minute freakout version of 'Voodoo Lady' played by Rudolph Rocker, with Jeremy on keyboards, was just fabulous. I managed to have a chat with Jeremy for a few minutes - he's very busy with stuff with lots of projects, including two for Simon Pegg's production company.

He read half of his ghost story 'Out of Bounds' (its going to be one of the stories in his new short story collection 'The Cranes That Build the Cranes') before the all-nighter began. 'Out of Bounds' has been published once before - in 'The Guardian' , as a ghost story treat for Christmas. Its excellent & here it is...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/de ... ng.fiction

Leon Hunt's BFI book on The League of Gentlemen is superb. I spoke to Leon at the Curzon Soho event, where copies of the book were on sale. Its a very entertaining & intelligent read & includes plenty of stills from the series too. Highly recommended for any TLOG fan.

*Ellie - your pictures are great. They came out really well, considering how low lit it was in that room*
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Post by serafina pekkala » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:18 pm

Sadly, it's this sort of thing that's always made me uncomfortable about *being* a gents fan and certainly of telling people I am. No one wants to be a fan of people who hate their fans... And even if the gents don't, a lot of people certainly think they do. It doesn't help that it's the sort of show which is percieved by the general public as "weird" and therefore anyone who's a fan of it "must be a complete nutter". Strangely I've met far more sane/nice people on here than I ever have in more mainstream fandoms.
Yep - very much show. 'Weird' shows often get nice and lovely fans - just interesting and respectful people. The strangest fans i found were associated with Firefly - but they are the smallest minority and usually, strange fruit in any context. And Astrid and I have found some great friends through it too. Only people with no knowledge of fandom thing to be a fan is 'weird'.

I bet Coronation St gets far far more oddbods who think it's 'real'. X-FActor and other reality TV shows are probably drowning in crazies. Nobody could ever think LoG was real :) in that way hence it attracts a different crowd.

The nutters associated with any fandom are the ones who don't socialise on the internet or with other fans - as with a recent stalker of a renowned comedy actor. They don't meet nice like-minded people who give them perspective concerning any nutty behaviour and line crossing in terms of the gent's personal space. They get short-shrift round frokm the regulars and have done since I have been on this site. *le shrug* From what I hear the worst fan experiences are getting on for 7 years ago. Things have improved I should imagine.

Leon Hunt's book!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/League-Gentleme ... _sv_edpp_i

And thanks for sharing your accounts, dudes. Shows that fan interaction is not 'mainly bad' or whatever hmmm. ;)

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Post by TucBiscuit » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:39 pm

serafina pekkala wrote:The nutters associated with any fandom are the ones who don't socialise on the internet or with other fans - as with a recent stalker of a renowned comedy actor. They don't meet nice like-minded people who give them perspective concerning any nutty behaviour and line crossing in terms of the gent's personal space. They get short-shrift round frokm the regulars and have done since I have been on this site. *le shrug* From what I hear the worst fan experiences are getting on for 7 years ago. Things have improved I should imagine.
I do know what you are saying, and I do agree. But for the record, some Gents fans are put off by the fangurl/ sexual content of sites like this. For example, news that would interest a generic (male?) Gents fan, like a book signing, is not in Press Office, but in a thread dedicated to pashing on Mark, or the news that Jeremy is at the Curzon is in a thread where posters talk about hair-sex.

I'm honestly NOT criticising - I've stalked this site for years and accept it, but it's what I know has put otherwise die-hard fans off the major source of Gents info. Trouble is of course, the fan sites are far better informed/ updated than the official sites. If the Gents really are creeped out they should have their agent keep an up to date site with no graphics or sound that gives fans the up to date info and first dibs on tickets. IMHO.

I now live and work in London, so I feel I can participate. Also I have a relaxed job and home internet access so I can post here. I am grateful for that amd for this site. But I am aware these worlds don't collide for many real League fans. There endest the lesson ;)

PS - the pics above show the lovely redhead that gave me my dvd prize!

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Post by serafina pekkala » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:06 pm

TucBiscuit wrote: But for the record, some Gents fans are put off by the fangurl/ sexual content of sites like this. For example, news that would interest a generic (male?) Gents fan, like a book signing, is not in Press Office, but in a thread dedicated to pashing on Mark, or the news that Jeremy is at the Curzon is in a thread where posters talk about hair-sex.
But for the record, some Gents fans are put off by the fangurl/ sexual content of sites like this.
Well that's a shame for the generic male non-fangurly fans who aren't interested but that is the internet as Katie said. :) However, because most LoG fans I've met are overwhemingly female and sometimes kinda young - it's inevitable. Just ask Paul :). The Boosh have it the same. So do Little Britian and Mitchell and Webb.

Maybe we get no feedback from the more non-gurl fans because we are too busy talking about fake-people offa the telly. I know i am. ;)

Heck - on more gender-balanced and gender themed sites I have to read remarks about the majestic nature of Christina Hendricks cleavage but don't find it off-putting.

Imagine being, say, Emma Watson - maaaan, that must be scary - she gets the worst kind of male (and female) attention; the creepy older men and the colourful teenagers with BDSM fantasies.

And to be honest - the LoG fans are mostly the ones that go to events and buy books. The gents aren't that famous anymore. Slightly risque comments about the 'hairsex' are probably greeted with curious bemusement from male onlookers but they can get the info they want and then go to other sites and look at pictures of Christina Hendricks cleavage.

Any big news is placed in the news thread. Or you e-mail a mod and ask them to do it.
I now live and work in London, so I feel I can participate
And maybe this is where you and I differ. I am happy to enjoy the work alone and leave it at that. It's just a different approach to fandom. others enjoy more interaction and that is cool for me. As long as it's cool for the guys too.

Much as i'd love to wait outside the National theatre every night to shout my declarations of love to Lord VoldeFiennes and point a pencil at him and shout 'expliarmus' - I don't! :)

"Never meet your heroes" - Mark E Smith

That's just me.

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